00:46.1
40 to 50 seconds, may resulta na.
00:49.0
So yung doubt nila na 2 minutes so fast is not improbable and is not impossible.
01:00.8
Kung yung linya pa lumabas, doktora.
01:09.1
Please identify yourself.
01:10.7
I'm Jerezare as the drug analyst from St. Luke's Medical Center, Global City.
01:16.4
So as the analyst po, yes, may lumabas po na line.
01:24.0
So sa drug test kit po natin, meron dun yung control line.
01:27.5
At saka yung line for the drug analyte.
01:30.8
So dun po sa resulta, may lalabas po dapat siya talagang na line as negative.
01:44.5
Will that satisfy everything?
01:50.0
Go ahead, Senator Escudero.
01:52.0
Permission of Senator Jingoy.
01:53.2
On this point, doktora Fernandez.
01:55.9
And to Ms. Reyes, yung two minutes and fifty-four, fifty-seven, fifty-four, ito yung oras na lumipas mula nung inilagay yung sample dun sa makina hanggang lumabas yung resulta.
02:13.4
Sir, hindi pong makina.
02:15.8
Ito po ay drug test kit na para pong pregnancy test kit or para yung COVID.
02:22.2
I-drop mo lang yung urine, someone, and...
02:25.9
Sihintayin mo na lang siya.
02:27.0
So, hindi ito yung kabuoang proseso ng kinuha yung urine na two minutes lang?
02:32.7
Yung transaction time po is the specimen collection.
02:35.5
So, pag-abot po nung sample, tapos gagawin na niya.
02:39.4
At yung rule ng DOH, hindi pwedeng lumampas ng?
02:42.8
Wala pong rule ng DOH.
02:44.6
Hindi pwedeng mas mabilis kesa?
02:46.7
Ano yung limang minutong binabangit niyo po kanina?
02:48.5
Yung drug test kit po na ginagamit namin hanggang five minutes po pwede niyong basahin.
02:55.9
Represcon of then Executive Secretary, no, he was not yet Executive Secretary at that time.
03:01.7
He was about to be Vic Rodriguez.
03:03.8
Sabi niya, tinest daw po sa lahat ng uri ng droga.
03:07.1
Ano-ano pong klase ng droga tinest o lahat po ba kasama?
03:12.6
Yung test po na ginawa ninyo?
03:14.8
Cocaine lang po ang pinagawa.
03:16.7
Cocaine lang po ang pinagawa?
03:18.6
Hindi po kasama ang iba?
03:20.7
Yung result ng yun po ba ay isa na publiko?
03:27.6
Read it in the papers.
03:29.2
The results of the drug test.
03:37.0
this was widely publicized in 2021,
03:42.0
if my memory serves me right.
03:43.1
So it was publicized, ma'am?
03:46.3
It didn't come from St. Luke's.
03:48.7
It came from the person tested.
03:54.5
Ah, ah, ah, Mr. Senator Archies,
03:57.5
yung drug test na ito na pinag-uusapan na ito,
04:01.2
yung sinabi ni Executive Secretary Rodriguez,
04:04.5
this pertains to the drug test that you made
04:07.2
on the former Senator Bongbong Marcos?
04:11.2
Yung ba'y mo yung sabihin?
04:17.1
you said that the particularly cocaine ang tinitest ninyo,
04:24.1
Ito po yung hiningi niya.
04:33.2
President Marcos?
04:37.3
Yan ang gusto niyang
04:38.1
hingin about cocaine.
04:40.4
Yan po lang ang hiningi niya.
04:41.9
your laboratory is capable of
04:49.3
iba yung ginagamit nyo sa cocaine,
04:51.4
iba yung ginagamit nyo sa cebo.
04:53.5
Iba rin gagamitin ninyo sa marihuana
04:59.0
Pero kung ako walk-in lang ako
05:00.5
Pupunta ako doon sa iyo
05:02.1
I want a drug test
05:03.4
Anong gagamitin ninyo?
05:05.7
Kung ano pong hihingin nyo
05:06.9
Oo, may ganoon ba na hingin?
05:16.5
Ganon doon na hingin
05:19.1
Marunong pa sa doktor mga kaibigan
05:24.4
Pagmunta kayo sa amin
05:25.4
Sa hospital namin
05:26.6
Kung ano ipapatest mo
05:28.0
Yun yung ibibigay namin
05:30.8
Anong test ng drugs
05:32.2
Saan component ba?
05:34.3
Ganon ang gustong sabihin itong doktor
05:37.6
Kahit naman saan laboratory kayo
05:40.1
Pag sinabing drug test
05:41.6
Nakalagay minsan doon yung request
05:48.9
Kasi lahat ng tao dito sa Pilipinas
05:52.2
Huwag niya malagtagpapit
05:54.0
Itest nyo ako sa Coken
05:55.7
Itest nyo ako sa Cebo
05:57.3
Itest nyo ako sa Marihuana
05:59.1
Pupunta ako sa inyo
06:01.2
Para pag mag-negative
06:02.5
Dalhin ko yung dokumento
06:04.2
Nag-a-apply ako ng trabaho
06:11.4
Koke na koke talaga
06:16.5
Marang kaaway niya
06:17.7
Yung ano yung taga
06:18.4
Alam niyo yung taga St. Luke's
06:20.2
Marang kaaway niya
06:21.1
Wala na wala na wala na
06:22.1
Wala na wala na wala na
06:26.5
Ang ginagawa natin
06:27.5
Hindi naman kami nagre-request sa inyo ng
06:29.5
Itest nyo ako sa Coken
06:30.5
Itest nyo ako sa Cebo
06:32.5
Itest nyo ako sa Marihuana
06:35.0
Pupunta ako sa inyo
06:36.0
Please conduct drug test
06:39.0
Dalhin ko ito sa in-apply ako ng trabaho
06:43.0
Bakit in-specify na Coken?
06:52.1
Ang hiningi ng pasyente ng panahon na iyon?
07:01.1
Go ahead, go ahead
07:03.1
Since you are PNP chief and we have a lot of police officers here
07:06.1
Pag nag-a-apply ako para sa
07:08.1
LTAP o permit to carry
07:10.1
Required po ako mag-drug test
07:13.1
Yung drug test po na nire-require ninyo
07:16.1
Yung po ba para sa lahat din
07:19.1
Nang uri ng droga?
07:24.1
Sino po pwedeng sumagat?
07:27.1
Thank you your honor and good morning to our honorable senators
07:31.1
Yung requirement po for drug test
07:34.1
This is one of the required requirements for people applying for driver's license
07:40.1
Permit to carry firearms
07:43.1
Yung ating license to own and possess firearms
07:48.1
Meron din po nga required
07:50.1
Random testing for secondary and collegiate level student
07:57.1
Random testing po ito
07:59.1
Ang tinatanong ko po yung nag-a-apply para sa permit to carry firearms
08:02.1
Yes, kailangan po yan
08:03.1
Lahat po ba ng droga tinatest?
08:06.1
Shabu and marijuana po ang tinatest
08:11.1
O, hindi, pag nag-cooking ako, pa-apply ako ng lisensya pwede
08:14.1
Maaring makalusot po kasi po yun po yung
08:17.1
Nagt-emphasize to the chairman's point ha?
08:19.1
So, for license to carry firearm outside of residence
08:26.1
Ang tinatest lang po ng PNP ay shabu at marijuana?
08:31.1
Yan po yung predominant
08:34.1
Meaning, apparently there are different tests
08:38.1
Recording in progress
08:40.1
Number two, drug test for driver's license
08:43.1
Ano lang po yung tinatest?
08:48.1
Tinan nyo mga kaibigan ha?
08:50.1
Pinapahiya si Bato de la Rosa dito
08:53.1
Yung sampal kay Bato dito
08:56.1
Hindi naiintindihan ni Bato de la Rosa
08:59.1
Mga kaibigan, na siya yung binabalikan dito ng mga senador mga kaibigan
09:03.1
Hindi naiintindihan ni Bato de la Rosa na siya yung binabalikan dito
09:07.1
Diba yung acting niya na pang koke?
09:09.1
Oo, hindi ako naniniwala!
09:11.1
Huwag mong tausin nyo!
09:13.1
Bigyan nyo kong drug test!
09:14.1
Ibigay ko ito sa na-apply ang ko! Diba?
09:16.1
Isipin nyo yung magkaroon ka ng senador na...
09:20.1
Ano? Senador na...
09:26.1
Oo, hindi ako naniniwala! Ibigay ko ito sa inyo!
09:31.1
Diba? Sabi niya yung de la Rosa
09:34.1
Isipin nyo, nag-iisip koke si de la Rosa
09:37.1
Yung nanonood kayo ng pinikulang koke
09:41.1
Nag-alatanga e! Tatanga-tanga e!
09:44.1
Nanonood niya yung doktor doon sa St. Luke's
09:49.1
Ngayon, binalikan siya ni Cheese
09:51.1
Pinasagot ngayon doon sa taga PNP
09:54.1
Anong tinetest nyo?
09:55.1
Diba? Kasi sabi ni de la Rosa
09:57.1
Wala naman sinasabing i-specify mo lang ang cocaine lang
10:02.1
Diba? Bakit cocaine lang? Hindi yung shabu, hindi yung ano
10:05.1
Eh, hospital sila e!
10:08.1
Mga kaibigan, this is private hospital
10:11.1
Number one, private hospital ito!
10:15.1
Ngayon, pag nagpakanda ka ng test yan
10:19.1
Laging may mga recommendation yan
10:21.1
Alimbawa, hindi drug test ang gagawin sa'yo
10:24.1
Gusto mo magpatest ng paa mo o nung lungs mo
10:29.1
Ibibigyan ng doktor anong klaseng test ang gagawin sa'yo
10:34.1
So kung ikaw alimbawa ay
10:36.1
Alimbawa, magbabayad ka dito kay St. Luke's
10:41.1
Ibig sabihin, tatanungin ka niya!
10:43.1
Tatanungin ka niya, ano pong gagawin namin sa inyo?
10:47.1
So ngayon, sinabi nung Marcos na cocaine
10:51.1
Oo, sabi nang hindi de la Rosa
10:53.1
Oo, hindi ko niniwala sa inyo!
10:56.1
Sinagot ni Escudero
10:58.1
Ano po ang requirement?
11:00.1
Dito sa pagkuhan ng license to carry firearms
11:04.1
At saka sa pagkuhan ng lisensya
11:06.1
Ha? Ang sabi nung ano dito, nung resource person
11:10.1
Nung resource person na to, sabi niya
11:12.1
Ang kinukuha lang daw po talaga usually
11:14.1
Shabu at saka mariwana
11:17.1
Eh si gagong de la Rosa
11:19.1
Sinasabi niya na lahat daw
11:22.1
So ibig sabihin, isipin mo ha
11:24.1
Mismong galing na dito sa Krame
11:27.1
Sinasabi nila na shabu at mariwana lang
11:31.1
Pero si de la Rosa, pag tinanong mo
11:33.1
Oo, hindi ko naniniwala! Ano na?
11:36.1
Lahat daw talaga, sabi ni de la Rosa
11:39.1
PNP chip ito, maa!
11:41.1
Kaya nga chip eh!
11:43.1
Tuloy muna natin, gagong bato to
11:49.1
Shabu and mariwana
11:53.1
So yan po yung nire-require ng gobyerno?
11:56.1
Sa mga pagkakataong nire-require ng drug test?
11:59.1
Kasi po iba-iba pong reagent na ginagamit dyan eh
12:02.1
At itong shabu and mariwana being the predominant drugs na ginagamit natin
12:09.1
Yan po yung marami na tayong reagent
12:11.1
Sir, saan po nakasulat yan?
12:12.1
Na shabu and mariwana lang ang tetest natin?
12:15.1
Wala naman po, pero yan po yung practice na ginagamit natin
12:21.1
No, on the part of PIDEA and especially on the part of the Dangerous Drugs Board
12:26.1
Especially the DDB, which is policy making
12:30.1
I think this fell into the cracks
12:33.1
Sino nagde-determine yung bumibili ng testing kits?
12:37.1
Where is the policy coming from?
12:39.1
Bakit sino nag-decide at nagsabing mariwana lamang at shabu?
12:44.1
Meron pong dalawang test na ginagawa eh
12:48.1
Yung screening and yung confirmatory
12:50.1
Pag nag-positive po yung sa first screening
12:53.1
Ito po yung isa subject for confirmatory
12:56.1
At dito po malalaman
12:58.1
But my question is, where is it written?
13:01.1
Na pag drug test required by government
13:04.1
Whether for driver's license
13:06.1
Or for permit to carry firearm outside of residence
13:09.1
You only test for these two prohibited drugs
13:13.1
San po nakasulat yun?
13:14.1
Sino nagbaba ng polisiyang yun?
13:16.1
Sino nag-desisyon po nun?
13:18.1
O nagkataon lang?
13:20.1
Nakasanayan lang?
13:21.1
Wala pong ganung policy
13:23.1
Yan lang po yung ginagawa
13:26.1
Siguro po dahil sa additional expenses kung gagamit pa ng reagent
13:33.1
Pero yun nga po, doon sa secondary testing po
13:36.1
Doon sa confirmatory testing
13:38.1
Dito po malalaman kung anong drugs yung na-detect doon sa initial screening
13:42.1
Perhaps there is another gap
13:43.1
The good chairman and the committee can look into
13:46.1
Why is it that it's only being
13:49.1
Only the test for Shabu and Marijuana is being used
13:52.1
Because clearly Shabu and Marijuana would be called the poor man's addictive drug
13:57.1
While cocaine would be the richer man's addictive drug
14:01.1
So kahit pala sa testing pinapaboran yung mayaman
14:04.1
Kumpara sa mayarap
14:05.1
Di ba dapat kung nagtetest tayo
14:07.1
Gaya nang sinabi ni Sen. Bato
14:09.1
But the point I'm driving at Mr. Chairman
14:12.1
O sampal ngayon kay Bato di ba?
14:15.1
Sinampal ngayon si Bato
14:17.1
Eh gusto ni Bato doon sa hospital lahat daw sabi ni Bato
14:21.1
Eh kung nakakaintindi kayo ng konting hiya mga kaibigan
14:25.1
Makakaramdam ka ng konting hiya kung ikaw si Bato
14:27.1
Yung balat mo uurong
14:29.1
Eh makapalang mukha ni Bato di ba?
14:31.1
Kanina nagreaction ang di ba?
14:33.1
Yung alam mo yun?
14:34.1
Nag para siyang batang ano?
14:40.1
Yung nagtantrum siya?
14:41.1
Oo hindi ako naniniwala
14:44.1
Ano kailangan pag netest ko?
14:50.1
Kung ang gobyerno namimili kung anong droga ang itetest
14:54.1
Lalo naman siguro kung yung individual na magpapatest
14:57.1
Kung anong babayaran niya
14:58.1
And I remember that time
15:00.1
I think this test was done in November
15:02.1
And issues were being raised with Bato
15:03.1
With then candidate Bongbong Marcos
15:06.1
That these issues were raised against him
15:09.1
That allegedly he was a cocaine user
15:13.1
And that's why at that time
15:15.1
They conducted these tests
15:17.1
To answer in light of the political
15:20.1
Perhaps whether at that time
15:22.1
The issues being raised against him
15:24.1
Although there is no legal requirement
15:27.1
For a candidate to do a drug test
15:29.1
That was attempted at some point in time in our history
15:32.1
To require a drug test
15:34.1
But the Supreme Court unfortunately struck it down
15:38.1
As an additional requirement for elective office
15:41.1
Which is not allowed under the Constitution
15:46.1
Sana nga nirequire yan pero hindi eh
15:48.1
Sabi ng Korte Suprema hindi pwede
15:50.1
Applying a higher standard
15:53.1
A less stricter standard insofar as running
15:56.1
For public office is concerned
15:57.1
So I guess that answers the query of the chairman
15:59.1
And that reveals a loophole too
16:01.1
Insofar as the drug testing rules
16:03.1
Of the Philippine National Police
16:05.1
The PDEA and the DDB is concerned
16:07.1
Thank you Mr. Chairman
16:08.1
Thank you Sen. Chis
16:10.1
Taga thank you na lang si Bato eh
16:12.1
Huwag na papayaan siya
16:13.1
Thank you Sen. Chis
16:14.1
Hanggang doon na lang siya eh
16:16.1
Oo hindi ako naniniwala
16:20.1
Hindi ako naniniwala
16:21.1
Pupunta ako sa inyo
16:22.1
Mag-apply ako sa trabaho
16:24.1
Balik ako sa trabaho ko
16:27.1
Gagong din na Rosa to
16:32.1
As a result of this
16:34.1
Ayan na naman si presume oh
16:38.1
Inquiry in aid of legislation
16:40.1
This committee will
16:45.1
Propose a measure
16:46.1
Requiring all candidates
16:48.1
To undergo drug test
16:50.1
Before they will be
16:55.1
According to our constitution
16:58.1
Pag mag propose tayo
17:00.1
Hindi yan makakalusot
17:01.1
Because that's unconstitutional
17:02.1
Just to set the record straight
17:03.1
Because people are listening to us right now
17:06.1
Ang committee niya is
17:07.1
In aid of legislation
17:08.1
So we are waiting for legislation
17:09.1
Na pwede niya ma-come up
17:10.1
After this hearing
17:11.1
So kung mag-propose tayo ng
17:14.1
Requiring candidates
17:18.1
Pwede niya mag-come up
17:19.1
After this hearing
17:21.1
Kung mag-propose tayo ng
17:24.1
Requiring candidates
17:29.1
Sgt. Chesis Cudero
17:30.1
That's unconstitutional
17:32.1
Makalusot yan dito
17:34.1
You are listening right now
17:35.1
Yan po ang explanation
17:37.1
But nothing prevents the chair
17:39.1
And the committee
17:40.1
From instructing the DDB
17:42.1
From coming up with relevant policy
17:44.1
As it is its job under the law
17:46.1
Insofar as the type of tests
17:50.1
Whenever drug testing is required
17:53.1
As the case may be
17:54.1
For the issuance of a driver's license
17:56.1
Or for the issuance
17:57.1
Of a permit permit
17:58.1
To carry a firearm
17:59.1
Outside of residence
18:00.1
Or any other circumstance
18:02.1
The executive branch may necessitate
18:05.1
Pati yung random drug test
18:06.1
Naga random drug test
18:09.1
Gusto pang gumanti ni Bato eh
18:11.1
Gusto niya ring ipahiya si Chis eh
18:14.1
Gagawa tayo ng ano
18:17.1
Lahat ng tumatakbo
18:20.1
Against yan sa Constitution
18:22.1
Yun naman ang buo ang ano niya
18:24.1
Ang kanyang depensa naman
18:28.1
Pero kung totoo si mga kaibigan
18:30.1
Gugustuhin nila talaga na
18:31.1
Ang mga presidential ball
18:33.1
Eh magkaroon po ng
18:36.1
Magkaroon po ng drug testing
18:38.1
Eh napakadali naman pong
18:39.1
Mag-amenda ng batas
18:40.1
Kung talagang gustuhin
18:43.1
Karamihan po sa mga politiko
18:48.1
Baka nagdodroga din
18:53.1
Kung ano yung drug test
18:54.1
Sa random drug test
18:55.1
Baka naman pili lang niya
18:56.1
Baka naman pili lang din
18:59.1
Come up with policy guidelines
19:01.1
With respect to these things
19:03.1
Required and random drug test
19:05.1
Ano naman yung drug test natin?
19:07.1
Alam mo yung random drug test
19:10.1
Sa editor Jesus Cudero
19:12.1
Lalo lalo na sa PNP
19:13.1
Nung panahon na bata pa kami
19:15.1
Ang random drug test
19:18.1
Nung panahon magastos talaga yan
19:20.1
Magpa drug test ka ng maraming tao
19:22.1
Ang ginagawa ng mga commander namin
19:25.1
Pinipili lang yun
19:27.1
Pero pinipili yung mga mukhang addict na polis
19:29.1
Ikaw ikaw ikaw ikaw
19:36.1
Para hindi masayang ang resources ng gobyerno
19:38.1
Talaga pinipili yung mga
19:40.1
Balitaan na gumagamit ang druga na polis
19:44.1
Ikaw drug test ka
19:47.1
Purpusive sampling pala yun
19:49.1
Hindi pala random sampling
19:51.1
Purpusive sampling
19:53.1
Ikaw ikaw ikaw kasi
19:54.1
Alam ko gumagamit ka
19:55.1
But going back to
20:04.1
Kenkoy na commit ito mga kaibigan
20:08.1
In fairness to Sintlox
20:10.1
It's very clear here
20:11.1
Sa drug test report
20:16.1
Marcos Ferdinand Jr. Romualdez
20:19.1
Nakalagay ditong pangalan
20:23.1
Drug metabolite is cocaine
20:27.1
Na cocaine talaga
20:28.1
So cocaine yung pinapatest niya
20:31.1
Siya mismo ang nag
20:35.1
Na cocaine ang ipapatest
20:39.1
Further questions
20:43.1
Sabi niyo possible
20:45.1
Kayang kaya 2 minutes
20:49.1
Thank you for your cooperation
20:53.1
Hindi ito yung posibleng
20:54.1
Posibleng posibleng talaga
20:58.1
Thank you for that
21:01.1
Banggitan niya nang hindi ito siya posibleng
21:06.1
Akala ko sasabihin niya
21:07.1
Hindi ito siya posibleng
21:10.1
Posibleng posibleng talaga
21:12.1
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