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And of course, Community Commissioner George Garcia.
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Makikita nyo doon ito sa mga posts, sa mga reports ninyo na kinuha nyo, na nag-attend kayo doon sa kapihan sa Manila Hotel.
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What is significant in last April 24 is undersecretary for the first time, Jeff D.
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He deepfake video publicly.
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Doon mismo sa kapihan sa Manila Hotel namin.
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And he explained niya yung mga ganitong nangyayari.
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So the issue of using artificial intelligence and other high technology na medyo akala ng mga kababayan natin okay-okay lang.
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May implication pala ito sa national security.
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So it was there na ilatag ito.
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Not only in media but in social media.
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So move forward tayo.
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The next day, I wrote Secretary Benjur Abalos about this issue.
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And may mga proseso po kami na nangyayari.
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That's why we're here right now sa PNP Anti-Cybercrime Group para makipagtulungan.
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We formally filed a complaint.
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Siyempre may nakita kaming problema.
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Ang violation of the law is Revised Penal Code 154 in relation to the Anti-Cybercrime Law Attorney.
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So this is the case.
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This is the basis ng reklamo namin ngayon sa pulis.
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Alam mo naman, pag may krimen, kailan may nagre-reklamo sa pulis.
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So legally speaking, nandito kami ngayon na nagre-reklamo as an NGO.
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hindi naman kami government regulator.
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We are just a volunteer.
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We are pushing government to do something about it.
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Pero wala pang batas kasi.
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So in the meantime, training institution po kami.
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We are TESDA accredited.
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We are the one who created for TESDA the first ever TESDA Level 3 course.
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Yung tinatawag na content creation course.
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And we have partnership with MTR.
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MTR TV and other agencies.
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So napilitan po kami.
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Napilitan po kami to do this as a volunteer.
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Nagiging self-imposed.
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Watchdog kami ng social media.
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Even though na hindi naman kami ang dapat dito but government.
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So what I'm saying to say right now is today,
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we are trying to call the attention of the Filipino nation,
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especially yung mga naggagamit ng social media
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and the technology involvement.
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Especially yung mga naggagamit ng social media and the technology involvement.
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Including it, now the high-tech technology,
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about a clear and present danger.
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A clear and present danger sa buhay natin mga Pilipino.
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Our social media practices might be something na matouch
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yung tinatawag natin na national security concerns.
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Because the technology involved in this project,
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particular social media, blogging and everything,
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has already succeeded into a point na medyo ano na siya,
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nakaka-influence siya na pag-iisip ng ko din na yung Pilipino.
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I'll give you an example.
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TikTok in the US.
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Bakit nalang gusto ibaan?
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You try to see why, what's the reason about the Osama Bin Laden thing.
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You can see that.
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And there are a lot of things right now,
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ng akala ng ordinaryong Pilipino,
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yung paggamit ninyo ng telepono, yung device ninyo,
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okay lang na walang threat.
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But actually, because of the technology,
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more so, yung tinatawag natin na artificial intelligence,
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ang tinatawag natin na embedded algorithm.
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When you talk about embedded algorithm,
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this is what you call predictability.
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You can predict the behavior of the person you see.
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Because naaayos nila.
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Now, we are now talking, as a matter of fact,
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we've been talking to a lot of government agencies.
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Sa amin lang po, sa amin lang.
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Kasi kami, volunteers kami.
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Private citizen po kami.
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Ang gusto lang namin, magbigay ng training.
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Magbigay ng certificate sa sino gusto mag-vlog, etc.
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Para patulungan namin sila.
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But at this point in time, nakikita namin,
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yung tinatawag na threat.
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A clear and present danger for the country
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and the things that we would like to fight for
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as a Filipino democracy.
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Nakikita namin yan ngayon, at this point in time.
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And we are calling the attention,
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not only of government,
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but the attention of everybody na gumagamit nito.
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What is the bottom line?
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We are now in the process of asking the government,
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we are asking our friends, mga sindor, mga congressman,
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to sponsor a bill.
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Ang tawag naman dyan is the National Social Media Regulatory Board.
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This particular National Social Media Regulatory Board,
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it's beyond just MPRTB.
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Hindi ito censorship, hindi ito classification.
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Sabagay, wala tayong censorship.
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Hindi ito classification.
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It dwells upon the national security concern
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and interest of the country.
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Alam mo, maraming usap-usapan.
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But because of the embedded algorithm predictability
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of the technology right now, the AI,
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and there are even deeper,
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kasi ano namin nakikita namin ito,
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there could be a chance na the Filipino people,
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even the Filipino voter,
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can be manipulated in the decisions.
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Hindi na ako lalayo.
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Look at the China narrative.
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All of you, nakikita niyo kung anong nangyayari dito,
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the West Philippine Sea, etc.
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So, yun yung nakikita namin.
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So, right now, kami, bilang private citizen,
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this is beyond personality.
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It's just so happened that the President is a victim of this.
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But if you will see our complaint,
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hindi lang presidente, hindi lang presidente yung nandyan.
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May mga ibang mga personalities, even private citizen,
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na ginagamit yung mukha nila
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para mag-advertise ng mga fake na mga medicine, etc.
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It's all far from our complaint.
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Okay, Doc. Nabanggit niyo na rin yung complaints.
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Kaya kayo nandito sa PNP ACG.
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Bigyan-hunin niyo kami ng background.
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Ano yung kasong sinampanin niyo?
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Sinong mga perpetrator na natukoy hunin niyo
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dyan sa na-related dun sa deepfake?
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Right now, my attorney is now advising me
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not to say anything kasi we are in the process
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of completing the full proof,
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full proof case in court right now.
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So, that's why nandito kami.
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Pero meron kami yung mga pinangalanan doon sa complaint.
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Can you just see specifically kung ano yung complaint?
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Kasi parang hindi alam dahil bakit tayo gaya.
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Yes, we are filing a case in violation of Article 154
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of the Revised Penal Code,
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which is unlawful utterances or unlawful use of publication.
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As we all know, you are media personnel.
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We have the right to,
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we have the right for freedom of speech.
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But also kasi nangyayari na aabuso din po,
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lalo na ngayon na sumikat ng social media,
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napakadaling gamitin ang mga ating mga reporters.
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Very responsible.
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Pero ngayon po dahil ang general public ay may access sa social media platforms,
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kahit ano po nilalagay na lang nila at pinupost.
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Ang ginagamit po ngayon ay ang artificial technology, AI,
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bumagawa ng deepfake na mukha,
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bumagawa ng, kunwari sinabi ng presidente,
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sinabi ng ganitong opisyalis,
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na kung sa pangkaraniwang tao,
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maniniwala kayo na siya talaga ang nagsabi.
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So ang kapisanan, yun ang adhikae nila na imonitor ang mga fake,
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false news, illegal news.
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Kaya po nagpa-file sila ng case for Article 154
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in relation to RA 10175 o Cybercrime Prevention Act.
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So papasok po ito sa cyber libel.
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Ngayon po hindi muna natin mag-disclose yung names ng social media accounts
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and yung moderators dahil nga po ongoing pa lang ang filing.
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But I assure you we have names, we have websites,
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inangayos lang namin ito right now, no?
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And we are open to collaborate with any government agencies on this, no?
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Para maayos natin ito.
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Marami po, marami po. It's all there in the complaint now.
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Maraming sites kasi sa isang sites maraming mga ano eh.
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So naka-cluster siya.
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Four, five initially.
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Tendang additional, additional na...
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Kasi ang upload naman niya sir hindi naman kasalang eh.
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Ibang regular ninyo sila nag-upload.
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So bawat upload nila ng illegal or immoral or libelous content.
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Accounted po natin at ibang file.
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Ito po yung mga social media pages, tama po ba?
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O may mga individual?
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Individual, social media pages.
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Ilang social media influencers, ilang mga pages?
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Mayroon na-identify po. Sabi ka ng attorney ko, we are not yet in the liberty.
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Marami sila kasi katulad yan.
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Pag nagpalagana, I told you this is not about personality.
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There's something there about the certain, not only the president,
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another politika na doon ilang sites ang ina-claiming a lot of things na accurate din sa isang sinadon na ito.
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So anyway, these are yet work in progress.
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And I assure everybody, katakabisanan ng social media broadcasters ng Pilipinas as a private group,
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will be here to help government para maayos na ito.
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We see a clear and present danger.
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Right now, for the nation, for our democracy, that's why we're doing this.
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And we would like government to be with us.
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Ang bottom line dito is we are asking Senate and Congress to do a law creating the National Social Media Regulatory Board
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beyond just classification or censorship.
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This is about national security.
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And right now, just to tell you,
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we wrote the Executive Secretary, Bersamin, and our letter was received
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asking him, the Executive Department, to temporarily draft a temporary EO signed by the President
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habang inaayos natin yung batas dito sa Kongreso.
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Kasi mahaba ang proseso sa paggawa ng batas creating the National Social Media Regulatory Board beyond classification.
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Ibig sabihin, ang nasalagay namin doon, nandoon yung National Security Council, yung DND, yung PNP, it's a committee of a whole
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that will try to see and re-evaluate the clear and present danger that this thing na nangyayari sa atin,
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akala natin normal lang, no?
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Akala ng mga bata natin normal lang, hindi po. Hindi po.
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You and media can see this.
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Doc, ano po yung negatibong naging epekto nito sa publik?
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Sa publiko, yung paggaya doon sa mukha at boses ng Pangulo, saan nalagay yung Pilipinas yung negative effect po niya sa whole?
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Number one, because this is a technology na hindi alam ng tao na meron pala ganyan, so naano sila?
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Napipete sila, okay?
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Then the tendency is to believe, no?
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But beyond this pamimeke and to believe, ang sinasabi kong clear and present danger is the technology of embedded algorithm.
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Lahat ng mga bibili ka ng gamot, bibili ka ng gasolina, etc., lahat ng behavior mo, makikita yan.
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And once alam ng, nag-monitor sa iyo kung anong behavior mo, ano ang araw-araw, anong gusto mo, anong hiling, anong pinagpanood mo,
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they will own you.
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They can predict your thoughts.
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They can bring you things.
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Papadala ka kung anything.
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So yung sinasabi natin yung embedded, hindi yung algorithm, this is an embedded technology na medyo high-tech, embedded algorithm is predictability.
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If I can predict your options, I can predict your choices, then I can predict who you will vote in 2025.
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2028, I can predict.
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Anong sinasabi namin dito?
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Ako personally, natatakot ako sa Manchurian candidate.
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Doc, kung nagsumulat na po kayo kay Executive Secretary Bersamin, sino naman po yung kausap po ninyo ng mga mambabatas either lower or higher o sa Senado para po mabuo o may mag-fill sa bill para sa National Social Media Regulatory?
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Meron kaming mga pinagpusuan at this point in time.
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Siguro ang pwede natin gawin.
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Kasi lahat naman tayo, I consider myself part of the industry, the media industry o sa social media.
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Tulungan nyo kami. Baka may mga, ano tayo dyan, yung mga patriots na mga…
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Wala pa po kayo nakakausap?
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Wala pa kami. Initially, but we already forwarded our proposal to the office of Secretary Bersamin.
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On the draft Executive Order.
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Meeting the National Social Media Regulatory Board.
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Ito po yung mabilis.
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The difference is kung ang sabi sa akin, kung EO lang siya, wala siyang penalty.
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Kung law siya, may penalty.
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So sabi ko, kahit na walang penalty, at least we have a legal leg to stand on na kung may makita kami sa private sector na may mga violation, mapayla namin.
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Motu-propio ng mga kaso.
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Ano yung inaasahan ninyo na magiging aksyon ng PNPACG?
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Very, very positive kami. The Philippine National Police is so talagang open.
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We have commonalities, din-discuss namin about all these problems na pinipresent namin.
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We look forward to the Philippine National Police, particularly the Anti-Cybercrime Group, to be with us.
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And hindi lang sila.
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We also would like to work with the DICT.
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Yung Cybercrime Anti-Commission and with the National Security.
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Basta kami, private sector volunteer lang kami.
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And as taxpayer, we have the right to file cases against anybody who violates the law.